Autosurf Dummy

As we played the autosurf and hyip scene, i think it is a good time to refresh what we have learnt so far and remind ourselves on the key points of survival. If you adhere to them, you stay around but if you get greedy and lose the discipline, your assets will be wiped out in no time.

Below are the points:

1. Thou shalt not idolize nor blindly trust ANY Admin.

2. Thou shalt ALWAYS do your due diligence (aka DD) BEFORE entrusting your monies to a program.

3. Thou shalt NEVER use monies that are needed for food, rent, bills, etc.

4. Thou shalt NOT take out any loans or use Credit Cards to participate in programs.

5. Thou shalt not consider the Surf/HYIP industry a REAL business opportunity, or expect to get out of debt by participating.

6. Thou shalt NOT listen to nor follow silly cheerleaders into unknown programs with no track record.

7. Thou shalt ALWAYS take FULL responsibility for your actions once you hit the 'spend button'.

8. Thou shalt not whine, beg, cajole, or blame when you incur losses, since you ARE taking full responsibility for your OWN actions.

9. Thou shalt get your original spend out ASAP and play with profits ONLY so true losses never occur. IF true losses do occur due to YOUR failure to implement the above strategy, thou shalt then ACCEPT that it is YOUR fault, and your fault alone.

10. Last but not least...Thou shalt NOT expect miracles, or stable long term income from the Surf/HYIP industry!

An update from Dustin of DesertSkyMarketing introducing a new site, 4newbiesMarketing. It is run by Israel, another respected guy in the industry, so guys, if you want, check out the site.

I'd like to introduce to you 4newbiesMarketing.com. 4newbiesmarketing is run by
Israel from the CommandCorps programs. This is a new venture he is taking on his
own. Again, DSM was able to provide script leasing and hosting. 2% of
4newbiesmarkeing daily upgrades will benefit DSM!

Israel is an honest and proven admin with a paying record of over 9 months! Again,
I have verified Israel's identity and have worked with him on site improvements for
months. I, without reservation, recommend this new program to you. By signing up
under the referral link in this email you will also help DSM since all referral
commissions will go into the DSM share pool.

This is another outside income source that will help DSM maintain the max daily
rebate of 10%.

I encourage you to support Israel and 4newbiesmarketing.com. I doubt you will be
disappointed.

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I don't know how many members can trust Terry Kurtis when he says that he is concerned about members' payouts. Anyway here is his latest update and if what he says is true, in a week or so, members can expect a full refund, except for TriStar users.

The icing on the cake here is that he will be launching another 2 new sites. Well, all i can say is that you have to exercise caution and at least make sure that your refund is forthcoming before committing more money to his programs.

Hi Everyone,

I wanted to get this small update out to you tonight, as I know all of you are waiting for some news, whatever it might be. I also want to apologize for the wait, but I have been waiting on others on my end, for answers that seem to be taking longer then I thought would take.

In this update, I will just focus on PTSPayPro.com and what my plans are for the site, and its future.

As many know, payouts are long overdue and this is starting to become a problem for everyone, including myself. With this type of ROI, and at the rate that it is set, there is no room for error or delay as the balances just keep climbing. With this in mind, and as you all know there was a delay on my end as to starting to generate a profit, taking three weeks after the re-launch, so this has caused the program to go off track and fall behind in payouts. So, for the members sake and the program's health, and after a long review, I have decided to move forward with the following solution.

1. I have ask Leon to give me a list of all member's upgrades that are owing without profit ( members not in profit ) and he has, so that I can start to refund the principal amount to you as soon as the generated profits from the reserve are in. These refunds should start within a weeks time or sooner and will be paid back as to the earliest dates the member upgraded. What this will ensure, is that all upgraded members of PTSPayPro, excluding the Tri-Star upgrades, will be fully refunded their original upgraded funds and I will further generate a profit to pay down the owing profit to the members.

2. All member's account cash balances will be set to zero, so that if you want to upgrade again at the new ROI, there will not be a problem in your earned calculations. Your history settings will still be there for you to see what is going on. As for the referral commissions, I am still working on a solution for this due to the refunds and the Tri-Star event.

3. With regards to the ROI, I have decided for the next 30 to 60 days that the new ROI will be set at 5% for 25 Days, equaling 125% with a payout in 5 days. The site will remain an Auto surf and based on the upgrade amount, so you are not required to surf daily to earn your return. The reason for the lower ROI is that this will give me time to get caught up, restructure the site and the investments behind it. Once Leon has finished the new programming in the database and cleaned up what needs to be done, we will reopen. I believe this will only take a day or so, so the site should be reopen soon. We will send out an email to all members advising of the reopening as soon as it is in effect.

Now, for some of you I know you are going to be upset, but I really need to get this site back on track and as soon as I can. It is very difficult to continue on a daily bases in a negative position, and I am not one to take risks and this deepening position was starting to push me in that direction and I am not going there. I will work as best as I can to get these refunds back to the owing members in a timely manner and then once they are paid back, I will start on paying the profit as best I can and as fast as I can. More on this to follow shortly.

In the coming days, we have two new sites that will be launched. These sites have been in the works for awhile now, but due to payment processor integration problems, they have been delayed. Once they are finished, we will be sending out emails to let you know that they are open. I want to thank you all again for your patience, and as we go through our growing pains and lessons, this will make us a stronger Corporation for the future as we continue to grow for you, our faithful members. Take care.

Yours truly,
Terry Kurtis CEO/President Cashx Corporation
PTS Network Inc.
PTSPayPro.Com

Looks like DSM is gaining momentum and is poised for great things. Refunds have been almost completed and ad packs are getting good responses. Won't be surprised if this program establish itself as the leader of the industry in the coming months...

We have hit another milestone. Yesterday DesertSky Marketing sold over $100,000 in ad packs in only one day! Thank you for making DesertSky Marketing such a huge success!

We have also paid in full (upgrades plus profit) all AlertPay members from DSM-1. All, as in 100%, everyone, total, complete, etc. :-) Thee are now just 71 Egold members who are owed a balance from DSM-1. We will make payments these members this weekend and pay most of them in full as well.

Please check out our email sponsor. The CommandCorps programs have been paying longer than any active surf site. Israel and Matt do a great job. Their new surf program, CommandCharlie, offers you a good return and automated cashouts. Check 'em out. :-)

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Happy Surfing,
Dustin
DesertSky Marketing

The much loved XLO has finally been sent to the gutters. Bob, depicted as the white knight when he purchased XLO and promised to reinstate its paying status has found that XLO is not viable and in very bad shape. Below is his update:

Dear Members,

I would like to address the situation with XLO surf which we purchased several weeks ago. We spent some time going through the database and examining how bad the damage really was and have discovered XLO to be in worse shape than what was originally portrayed to us by the admin “Andy”.

This has been very disheartening to us, We were very excited about the purchase of XLO and the opportunity to add this site to our network, but after careful review of the database it does not look very promising at this time.

We are not going to just give up, We will find a way to make this happen so the members of XLO can get there funds back and join us at Tri-Star Media in success and a bright future. Please remain patient as we continue to devise a plan to make this work. I will update you all after I have had some time to work the numbers.

Thank you
Robert Krimm
President
Tri-Star Media Group, Inc.

Andy has rebutted the announcement and apparently, XLO is still very much in his mind and he is fiercely protective of something he has built over the past nine months. He is upset by the comments that the product he has sold was flawed but then Andy should have heeded many members' comments then that selling XLO to Bob was no solution and definitely not in members' interest.

Well, no point crying over spilt milk now. Here is Andy's rebuttal:

If there is something wrong with the database then it should be publicly stated exactly what that is - cos I sure as hell didn't have any problems with it.

Bob ststed that he would take care of all XLO mmbers. Bob agreed that the XLO site woiuld be run as is - a low ROI site.

If members are forced into a 50/50 program - then - that is bob's right(??) to do that. While I may not agree with it - the program is his to do with what he will.

What I do not condone, nor accept, is that XLO was in a broken state and that Bob had to fix it. That is an outright lie. (Let's call a spade a spade) The analogy is a car - Bob was sold a fulling working car - all he was required to do was add fuel. If he chooses not to do that - that is his option. It does not mean that the car was in bad shape.

I think it is ver very sad that Bob has resorted to the methods he has - there was no reason for him to do so. He has other options other than making things up.

Autosurf Dummy has a nagging suspicion that Bob has actually purchased XLO to get his hands on the database rather than an interest to rescue the program. But whatever the motive, Andy is as much in the wrong as Bob for selling out.

In a harsh way, Bob actually did the right thing by discarding XLO to protect his own surfs but he should have admitted it in a straightforward manner and not pin the blame on Andy's database. The way he announced it was disappointing.

Anyway, there is no need to push the blame either way as most members should already be prepared for the worst already. Andy has tried his best for his members even if he made a wrong and unpopular decision towards the end.

Days after Manic Ads has announced its closure, the admin, Mike, decided to start another one, Ads Mania.

This turnabout is too much for even the most avid supporter to take, even as Mike has made good on his promise to refund most, if not all members.

He now has a partner to help him run the daily affairs and in a way, this may relieve his workload as he has expressed his difficulty of staying on top of things when he is both the programmer and the admin.

There are some changes to the payment processors and no surprise that egold is now excluded as it was part of the reason for the downfall of Manic Ads. Mike's processor choices are currently Tri Star Money Changers, Alert Pay, STPay, and 1mdc. (The last two are to be added in March.) Autosurf Dummy still has faith in e-gold as a very stable payment processor but undeniably there is a severe weakness when a single person can block the account without offerring any substantial evidence of misdeed.

It is puzzling that Mike would choose to start another surf so soon after his efforts in Manic Ads have turned to nought. But as yet, nobody can label him a scammer as he has not pocketed any of members' funds. Could he be planning something bigger, to lay a deeper trap for members, so to speak?

There are also questions over the legality of TSMC as a payement processor but nevertheless, the stable of surf programs in Tri-Star have been paying for a while and to that part, many members are happy. That makes Bob the most successful admin to date.

It is indeed a tough call to say whether Ads Mania can last or whether Mike will refund the second time round if it collapse. With a new partner, with e-gold out of the way and with Mike having more experience after his short trial with Manic Ads, could Ads Mania be the next industry leader after 15HitsDaily?

Autosurf Dummy would like to give Mike the benefit of the doubt but will not be in a rush to put in any money just yet.