Autosurf Dummy

News of the buyer's withdrawal before the fact has even sunk in.

From Harrolds Media's previous email: "We have also purchased all of the intellectual property rights to the AlertPayPro randomizer and no one, not even the previous owners are allowed to sell that product."

Now APP is saying that since the deal did not go through and thus the intellectual rights still remain with them. Well, who is lying or is this the childish way in which they conduct their businesses? Maybe the intellectual property rights aren't worth that much in the first place that they can switch hands so easily.

It seems that Rob is still going ahead with Harrolds plan, and they have requested for two more weeks to solve the problems and then they will be ready to show the industry the way ahead. Well, Phoenix Surf has already laid claim to that dubious honor. Anyway, Autosurf Dummy will give them the two weeks to see what sort of rubbish they will come up again to delay payments.

It is getting interesting to see these admins coming up with ever-creative excuses...

A message from Rob:
Well the last few days events have been very eye opening. I believe Harrolds Media
was going to be the company that saved this industry. Their plan was flawless and
allowed both owners and members to profit without worry of an autosurf going out
of business. But, this is not what happened. Many people took it upon themselves
to panic and post information that was not founded on facts.

Harrolds Media has now backed out of their purchase due to the negative publicity
seen on the internet in the past few days. I personally was excited when I reviewed
their idea and saw their plan to continue purchasing autosurfs and turn around the
entire industry one site at a time. I am still confused why someone would rather
join a site knowing it will eventually go out of business instead of going with a site
that would actually profit and continue?

I have now the task of finishing what I started with APP. Since I believe that the
Harrolds Media plan is what will turn this industry around, APP will continue
under that plan. We have all rights to OUR intellectual property including our
randomizer. The scripts containing the new format of earnings has already been
transferred to us and our programmers are implementing it as we speak. I
understand better then anyone when there are changes many people panic,
many people are used to autosurfs failing and then screaming scam.

Understandable, because it happens all the time, but that is because they are all
the same, no matter how honest the admin is or how business savvy or how they
are run it will fail. You know it, you've seen it over and over and over throughout
the years. It will continue unless it is changed. During this time you will be able to
log in to app and see the updates, Harrolds messages are being removed. APP will
stay located at alertpaypro.com.

This may take up to two weeks to finish implementing everything, we will work as
fast as possible to speed up that timeframe. We have always done what we thought
was best for members and have helped numerous other autosurfs, if you remember
we even bought a couple of autosurfs just to pay out those members so they didn't
lose money. All of the negativity out there makes us look bad but there is really no
reason why we would do everything we have done just to purposely destroy
something we put 1000's of hours to create.

HarroldsMedia had the right idea and now we will use that to continue to make sure
this entire industry does not crash. No disrespect to other autosurf owners but
please look at your site, look at the statistics - you may be the most honest person
in the world but take a serious look at your site. Will it be around in 1 month, 3
months, 6 months? This is a truly heartfelt email, take a look at your numbers -
if everyone cashed out now and only put 1/10 back in - would it continue? Could
it? NO. Under the new model it would continue because the earnings for that day
would only be 1/10 of the normal.

Under the new system if more advertising dollars came in your affiliates would
earn more faster in less days and receive faster earnings payouts. An autosurf
can not be run as an investment company - APP was and always will be an
advertising company. I really encourage everyone especially owners to look
at the new model, I'm not trying to sell this new format, once it's in place I'll
give it away for free.

This whole industry needs to change or every week a new surf will be listed in
the 'not paying' or 'scam' folder of the monitors. History repeats itself and will
keep doing so unless these changes are made. I hope everyone understands
my points and sees that this really could be what saves autosurfs now and in
the future.

Warmest regards,
Rob

Got this letter a few days back from the buyer of AlertPayPro, Harrolds Media, but haven't got time to comment.

The background of Harrolds Media is highly suspectible and a lot of questions like refunds and the handling of ID verifications which members have submitted are not answered.

The period in which members can collect the profit is now an unknown with the new system as they will have to depend on the program's ability to attract advertising dollars to achieve the (locked-in) profit. Gross profits doesn't seem to be affected but if you are talking about ROI over the same period as APP's rates, this is definitely going to be very much lower.

Will this work? Nobody knows, as the program will need around 3 weeks to implement but Autosurf Dummy thinks if they are so confident of this system, why don't they start afresh instead of picking up the pieces?

Date: July 25th, 2006
To: All AlertPayPro affiliates and advertisers
From: Harrolds Media
Re: A revolution

Harrolds Media is pleased to announce the acquisition of AlertPayPro we hope
this transition will be smooth and that we could have the same repor with you
and the previous management has had. Some of you may recognize us from our
online casinos, offline media/advertising and billboard advertisements. We have
some major announcements and improvements to the autosurf industry as a whole.

The first topic to address, the current autosurf business model is flawed.
Having a set percentage for affiliate earnings is the flaw. Unless autosurfs
correct this flaw they will fail. As you may have noticed the maximum lifespan
of an autosurf is approx 6 months, this is because paying a set percentage will
cause the autosurf to instantly run in the red upon opening its doors. Selling a
$5 advertising package will result in the owner paying $7.50 back. A $2.50 in
the red from the first sale. A company can not operate in the red for long
especially a company which sells their first item and is instantly in the red.
Unless the company itself is making money it will eventually consume itself.
Autosurfing could be the next major form of advertising for brand name
companies. The potential is huge if the industry changes to a true affiliate and
advertising network.

Here is how an autosurf could continue indefinitely:

Typical internet definition of an advertiser: someone who pays a company or
individual to promote their site and or product.

Typical internet definition of an affiliate: someone who is paid to promote,
view, click or otherwise show advertisements and get paid by doing so. (a
promoter for advertisers)

Using the above premise, this is what all autosurf members are: either
advertisers, affiliates or both.

A pay per click search engine is an affiliate/advertisers network.The advertiser
pays the search engine .02 per click they receive. The search engine hires
affiliates to also promote those links on their sites, and pays the affiliates
.01 per click. The affiliates earnings are based on the advertisers spends. Both
the search engine and the affiliate get 1 of the 2 cents and the advertisers
receives his/her advertising.

The above example with a pay per click search engine is an example of how an
autosurf has to be run in order for both the affiliates and owner to make money.
Which is essential for the company to continue.

How an autosurf should be run:
1. Take the amount of advertising dollars from the previous day. Divide that
total among the number of advertising packages in circulation (subtract 5% for
the administration.) That total will give the value of each advertising packages
for that days surfing. ie. $10000 in advertising purchases comes in on a given
day. There are currently 9000 advertising packages in circulation. $10000
divided by 9000 = $1.11 - 5% = $1.06 per advertising package. This is what each
affiliate/advertiser will earn per advertising package that they own for surfing
that day. So if an affiliate owns 1 advertising package they would have earned
$1.06 for surfing that day. If they owned 10 advertising packages they would
have earned $1.06 X 10 = $10.60 for surfing that day.

2. If an advertising package has a number of days limit then you may earn too
much or too little by the time it expires. So advertising packages must have a
dollar amount as the expiration date. Each advertising package will expire only
after you have earned $7.50 from the $5.00 advertising package. Each individual
advertising package will remain active until it has earned $2.50 PROFIT.

AlertPayPro is now under this new earnings system. This may take us up to three
weeks to complete, we estimate much less time but we will not cross ourselves as
the previous managment has. We have also purchased another (most consider #1)
autosurf and will be implementing the new model on that one as well. While we
are willing to help other owners move/transition to the new system, we will not
answer queries regarding this. Once all is completed on both of the new sites we
have acquired we will then offer the new system on the open market.

Affiliates and Advertisers on AlertPayPro will receive updates as we convert
AlertPayPro to our system. We are also auditing the AlertPayPro database to
remove the errors that may or may not have been caused by the previous
management. Our other autosurf company which we have purchased will be announced
also in the next few weeks.

Take notes, the autosurf industry is changing.
Harrolds Media Inc.,

We have also purchased all of the intellectual property rights to the
AlertPayPro randomizer and no one, not even the previous owners are allowed to
sell that product. If you purchase our randomizer from them or anyone else
please inform us, a reward will be made if we find our intellectual property has
been stolen or used without permission. We have not only purchased the new
randomizer technology but also improved on that randomizer itself; randomizer
with RV3.01 can be seen stand alone at http:/urbanrandomizers.com. The ross tech
randomizer was an improvement on the old randomizer. We have improved that one
even more, to a randomizers true potential.
WHERE IT PAY$ TO ADVERTISE!


Questions and Answers:
Q. With this model why take over AlertPayPro and the other company, why not just
start fresh.
A. We are a marketing company and the memberships that AlertPayPro and the other
autosurf have are the most valuable asset that we have obtained.

Q. When will this new site open.
A. Are official launch date is approx 3 weeks.

Q. What is the name of the new site?
A. Details will be sent in email to AlertPayPro affiliates and advertisers the
day before the official launch.

Q. I have a hosting account do I lose that?
A. No, nothing will change with your hosting accounts except that subscription
payments will now go to Harrolds Media.

Q. Will you offer VM?
A. At this time we do not have a Virtual Money account, this is something we are
currently looking into, if we do we will inform everyone. As it stand now, no.

Q. What happens with my AlertPayPro account?
A. We are simply moving the accounts over.

Q. Why not just keep the AlertPayPro name?
A. It is not the name we are interested in. It is the members as well as the
security and technology contained within the site. Also to avoid any copyright
infringement or name misrepresentation in the future.

Q. Will we have to give out personal info such as ssn?
A. No, only name, address and age. We are not based in the US and have laws
different then the US, you will have to take care of your own taxes according to
the laws where you are located.

Q. Will AlertPayPro still run your site?
A. No, we are fully staffed. The AlertPayPro team will help us through the
transitional period which should be
no longer then 30 days.

Hi people,
Please read:
Good evening everyone,


I apologize for the delay in the update. The meeting with our attorney ran late into the evening yesterday, and even part of today. The latest contract proposal was not everything that we had hoped it would be.

At this point we still are under our confidentiality agreement and I’m not able to give you specific details which I apologize for, but suffice to say that we were very concerned that several of the issues which were very important to us and the longevity of the program were not included as we requested in the contract submitted to us.

In other words, the contract was not in your best interest, and that’s unacceptable.

We’ve resubmitted a counter offer to the buyers, stressing that the longevity of the program is what we consider most important at this point, and stating very clearly that certain assurances must exist for the members, otherwise there will be NO DEAL.

We are all aware at this point that the future of AT is uncertain, but I can assure you of one thing without a doubt – IF Alien Trust must close down – WE WILL BE THE ONES TO CLOSE IT DOWN! Not some newcomer who stepped in with false hope and empty promises.

We should hear back by Monday or Tuesday on whether our assurances will be met and we’ll update you again at that point. In the meantime we’ll be working on an exit strategy that provides those assurances to you and will be in the best interest of ALL parties involved. Hopefully there will no need for such a strategy, but I will NOT simply stand idly by and let anyone pull another StormPay on the great people in this program that we care so much about.

I look forward to updating you all on Monday or Tuesday next week with some GOOD news, but either way good or bad you’ll have an answer to this situation by Wednesday next week.

Have a good weekend.

Found More Cheaters, More About The Alertpay....

I just found another member that shows as upgrading by Alertpay, but
when I go to check the transaction, there was no such transaction made. 
Somehow these jerks have some way to cheat to get upgrades in the
programs without paying for them.  I already know of $3000 plus that has
been lost to one such thief.  From now on before paying out, EVERYTHING
will have to be verified to make sure that the member actually upgraded &
is not just stealing from us all!  I am so upset!!  I have so many
members that are honest members & these horrible people are taking money
that is rightfully the honest members money!   Well, these THIEFS stole
from us the last time!  It will NOT happen again! I will not pay one
more penny to these sorry excuses for humans.  Whatever it takes they will
NOT receive any more of the members money!

Lee 

TR and IMF are gone and they are going to restart the whole thing. Members who are
not in profit will be paid up to the original investment + 20% more but they got to
submit the documentation. As for those in profit, too bad...

*This is going out to all members of TR and IMF*

Hello Everyone,

Let me start by first appologizing for the delay in communication from
me. It was not my intention, but so many things have been going on both
good and bad. There was a lot of things I didnt want members to have to
worry about, or even have some members stir up rumors about. In any
event I am truley sorry for keeping members in the dark and appreciate
all of you who have been so patient and supportive.

Now im not gonna bore you with excuses or reasons why things went sour
with TR and IMF but they did and I have some Bad News.

TR and IMF are Closing, but before you get all upset please hear me out.
You will NOT lose money! Let me explain what will happen with your
accounts from TR and IMF. We will be going thru the accounts on an
individual basis...if you are NOT in profit and your account is in good
standing and you have submitted your paperwork...you will be paid the
difference from your investment and what you were paid along the way,
plus up to 20%.

Heres an example:
If you put in $100 and were paid $80
You will rec. $20 plus up to another 20% of the $100
which is another $20.
This will make you break even or put you in profit.
If you are in profit or after you have been paid what you
are due, your account will be removed.

After all the crooks, hackers, fraudulant accounts, attacks, and what
not,  we are going to do all we can to make sure that no one loses
any money.

I was looking at the database and at least 3/4 of the members are in 
profit. That means that 3/4 of you MADE MONEY AT TR AND/OR IMF.
This fact alone tells me that there should be no reason why we cant 
rebound from all the b/s issues that screwed us all up.(Excuse my lango)

Therefore we are considering starting fresh and launching TR Revamped.
I am looking into it now, and depending on a few things, this will
determine if we launch the new site or not. We would be going back to
our old roots. Tr revamped would be as follows:

Upgrades - $7
10% for 15 days
10% referral commissions
View 15 sites for 15 secs
Cashout at $10

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Now to answer a few questions you might be thinking:

-I still have active ad packs...what will happen with that?
Only signups will be disabled, so you can finish surfing
until your ad packs expire.

-Can we transfer accounts to the new TR Revamped?
Absolutely Not...we would be starting over.

-What will happen with the Debit Cards?
The Debit Cards would still be accepted, and you can
still purchase or cashout using them on the new site.

-How soon will payments begin, and when can I expect to be paid?
They have already begun and you will be paid as soon as possible.
Im sorry, thats really all I can say.

***Please Keep In Mind All Members Have Until September 1st To Submit 
Paperwork***
Without it, you cannot be paid.


TR and IMF Admin,
Paul

Hello to all members,

Some people will be getting a "24dailypro Upgraded Membership Expired!"
message when the last of their upgrades expire.  From those that have
been used to always having an upgrade running before the last one
expired, you may be confused by the message. 

The message is only a reminder that the last of your upgrades have
expired.  You don't need to do anything different.  We will let you know
when upgrades are enabled again.  You are not losing anything by being a
free member as no one else can upgrade at this point.

We will give you a heads up at least 24 hours in advance when upgrades
are enabled again so you know ahead of time when.

Have an awesome day!

24DailyPro Admin

Audits are now the "in" thing.

The admin of 24dp is still sorting through all the problems and if there are any double
payments, members have to pay them back. Well, considering the current situation, i doubt if
a lot of members will be doing that.

They have also got in a team of trustworthy staff and got rid of the incompetent ones.
So hopefully, members' requests can be processed faster and payouts can start asap.

Hello to all members,

There has been a rumor circulating that we have sold 24DailyPro.  While 
it would be our right to sell it if we wanted to, this is not the case.  
We have not and are not now in discussions with anyone in regards to 
the sale of 24DailyPro.

The internal audits at 24DailyPro are still taking place and are well 
on their way to completion, however there is still more work to do.  We 
appreciate your patience in this matter.  We cannot give you a time 
line on this but our support staff is working around the clock to get 
everything back on track in the shortest time possible.

We are busy correcting the many errors that members have made.  Please 
read the last update and determine if one of these errors affects your 
account.  You can find the last (slightly revised) update as the first 
entry in the FAQ section.  We need your help to fix these errors and 
issues as quick as possible so that we can get back on track.

Much to our disappointment, as well as dealing with member errors, we 
have had to deal with incompetent staff members. All incompetent staff 
have been replaced.  The old saying "good help is hard to find" is 
certainly true.  You can be assured that the staff we have on hand at this 
time is trustworthy and dependable.

On a few dates, rebates were sent more than once on the same expired 
upgrade.  If you have been paid more than once on the same upgrade, you 
need to send that back to us ASAP.  Particularly on the expiry date of 
June 17, many members were double paid.  Please understand that through 
our internal audit we know who those people are.  If you do not send us 
a ticket and let us know that you were double paid, your account will 
be terminated and all monies lost.  We cannot credit you again on the 
next payout or deduct it from pending payouts, it must be repaid ASAP.  

You MUST send back the double payment either by clicking the "refund" 
button if that is still possible or by sending the payment back.  You 
need to send the money back to 24DailyPro Alertpay 
pay24dailypro@gmail.com and/or E-bullion B99566 immediately.  Send in a 
ticket with the transaction number of the overpayment, the transaction 
number of repayment and the upgrade that it corresponded to.  We will 
need to track this and record it so that we can reference it during the 
audit.  Those members who were double paid  and have not refunded it 
will not receive any subsequent payouts and accounts will be deleted.

DO NOT send us tickets asking about your payouts unless there is a 
problem with them.  If you are simply waiting please do not clog up the 
ticket system with your requests.  It only makes our audit longer to 
complete.

While it may seem excruciatingly slow to get your ticket answered, be 
assured that we are working on them as fast as we can.  Please choose 
the proper category to send your ticket to as well as the appropriate 
subject line and they will be handled the most efficient way possible.  

All upgrades that expired on Jun 16 and before but have not been paid 
yet have been placed on a priority list.  These will be the first ones 
paid out once we are ready to roll again.  Please send in a ticket ONLY 
if you have not been paid on an upgrade that expired on or before Jun 
16.  If you have submitted one already DO NOT submit one again.  

We know there are some payouts that have been received on Jun 6 and Jun 
17 expired upgrades but are still pending.  There may be other dates 
involved as well.  If you know you have been paid but the payout is still 
pending please contact us through a support ticket.  Please let us know 
if you are one of those people.  If you have contacted us about this 
already, we have them on a list as well and they will be adjusted within 
the next few days.

Remember to include your member ID if your email is not the one 
registered with your 24DailyPro account.

As mentioned above, this message will be posted on the FAQ for all to 
read if they have not received it by email.  Please let your downline 
know.

Sincerely,

24DailyPro CEO and Staff

Hello EPay Members.

I hope that you all had a great weekend. I will keep this short and
sweet.

Upgrades are still being added. It takes 20 to 30 minutes for each
upgrade process, so it does take alot of time to get everything processed.
I will send out emails to each person that gets an upgrade added, as
well as post in the forum at http://www.magnumhosting.net/forum Please be
patient, it will get done as soon as I can get it done. Thanks.

The forum is being worked on as well as a little design change for the
site. Hopefully that will be completed this week.

It is nice to see people upgrading on their own as well. Thanks for the
trust that you are putting into EPay Surf. It is appreciated.

We have had a small script error with the percentages, but hopefully
soon that will be taken care of. I will credit everyones accounts
accordingly once the error is taken care of.

I think that is it. I know that this is probably the shortest update in
EPay history.

Take care everyone!

Kent

A philosophical letter which brings an end to the autosurfing nature of the Matrix
Daily. Very few members chose the right pill.

From now on, it is basically a gamble, nothing else. The term gambling may be bad to
associate with, considering it is a vice but seriously, people who think autosurfs
are safer or are investments are deluding themselves. At least, in a professional
casino, if you win, you take the winnings but in an autosurf, there is no such
guarantee.

Nevertheless, Autosurf Dummy prefers online casinos than the Matrix game when playing
the game of luck...

Welcome to the 13th newsletter of The Matrix Daily!

1.) Battle For Zion analysis
2.) The New mode of operation
3.) It's all so black & white

1.) "There shall none of my words be prolonged any more, but the word
which I have spoken shall be done."

Battle For Zion, the final trial which the members of The Matrix Daily
had to participate in, is now over.

A minority of the members were able to enter the battle and have the
chance to save their cash balance. The rest had their cash balance
completely slaughtered without remorse, as was warned and as tends to happen
in all great battles.

Most members chose the red pill, perhaps because they saw it
appropriate to take the final plunge with the original risky color. Not bad!
Unfortunately, hundreds of people had the same clever idea...

Some chose their favourite color, others chose a color because they
thought it is so disgusting that nobody else would choose it. All valid
points and worth a reward if there were the means to give such.

The winning pill color that was chosen by the least number of people
is.. WHITE. Of course! If you had followed the white rabbit through all
the hints given during the lifetime of TMD, you would have been finally
rewarded by the touch of destiny.

All the 72 members who chose a white pill will get their purchase
amount (former cash balance) credited back 110%. Why 110%? We promised that
your cash balance will not likely be touched, well we have to make use
of the "likely" clause there as we nevertheless decided to touch the
cash balances and give the winners 10% extra on top of their money!

But it doesn't end here. The runner-up was the BLACK pill, which in
fact received the smallest dollar amount of choices, but was only the
second least selected by the number of members.

All black pill purchasers get back 50% of their cash. The rest of the
colors lose their full pill value, unfortunately.

Below are the pill colors in order of popularity:

Red
Green
Blue
Cyan
Orange
Yellow
Brown
Purple
Black
White

The winnings have now been credited, other accounts adjusted and all
members have full access to their current cash balance!

2.) The Matrix Daily has now completed changes that took it away from
its former autosurf status to a genuine game of chance & intellect.

From now on, The Matrix Daily pays you 125% to 400% your pill value if
you choose the correct color. Winnings are paid on the day following
purchase, usually just a few minutes after midnight GMT.

The losing pill color will receive back anywhere between 0% to 100% (or
even more) the pill value on the following day. As an example, if you
look at the front page of TMD on the left you will see the latest pill
percentages. On July 23rd blue was the winning pill paying 212% and red
was the losing pill paying only 10%. If you purchased a blue pill on
July 23rd for $10 you have already been paid $21.20. If you chose the red
pill for $10, you have been paid $1. And that's it for those pills, to
get any more earnings you will currently have to purchase a new pill
every day you wish to participate in the game.

All winnings are paid to your member account cash balance, from which
you can initiate e-gold cashout at any time, for any amount you want.

Cashouts are paid automatically every minute so the money should reach
your account nearly immediately. How is that about instant access to
your money!

Other major changes include:

* 10% e-gold referral fees for 1st level referrals (5% for 2nd level)
* No cashout limitations
* No minimum / maximum purchase amounts
* No surfing etc. - just buy the pill and wait for profits
* Automatic registration of new members - no signup

We suggest you briefly go through the web site - terms, faq, play
(join) page to get a grip of the new TMD. The whole concept has been
simplified a lot and has much less specific details to be aware of, which is
nice.

3.) Life in the hyiplandia is largely black'n white. Either a program
pays, or it does not pay. There are a few shades of gray in between, but
a skilled participant notices when a program has turned to the dark
side. And sooner or later all of them do turn, except of course The Matrix
Daily which is not a hyip but only fair gamble.

Who could have guessed that Black & White would dominate the most
dramatic event in the history of TMD as well - those two of them that are
actually not colors at all!

Boasting some elemental physics: black surface absorbs all light coming
to it, every color, that's why it "looks" black, it does not in fact
look anything as it keeps all light inside. Thus, black can be considered
to either contain all colors or to contain no color. Whichever way you
want to put it.

White surface reflects all light coming to it, thus a white item
absorbs none of the light reaching it. If an item looks white, it is
reflecting all the possible colors back to your eye. Red, Green and Blue are
the three primary color components, RGB in short (review the list of most
chosen pills)! Consequently, white can be seen as containing no colors
at all (when we talk about a white item), or containing all possible
colors (when we talk about white light).

The Fate is witty and its Hand is steadfast.

If you had the opportunity to choose all 10 colors at once from the
Battle of Zion pills, you would have certainly won. To choose the white
pill means exactly that, choosing all the available colors. White did
indeed win and it was not our decision to make it win.

Having chosen the black pill means almost the same. Black also has
something to do with all the colors, however it is the one that absorbs all
of them instead of shining bright like white. The white rabbit prefers
to hang around with forces of light, thus white won.

Of course, all that was obvious - but only after it happened (grin :).

The lesson of all this according to the white rabbit is: If you can
choose all colors do so. That applies to the game of life as well as the
game of The Matrix Daily. Happy Summer! (It's still hot in Zion.)

Kind regards,
Morpheus
The Matrix Daily Admin

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This occasional newsletter is sent to all members of The Matrix Daily.
If you wish to remove yourself from the program, please log into your
account where you can access a "Delete Account" button. Upon succesful
termination of your account you will not hear from us again. Thank you!

Dear Members

Sweepstake update

As the pool for the sweepstake this week is a little lower than we had
hoped, we have decided to do the draw next Saturday July 30th to make
it more attractive to win!
The Sweepstake is part of our income sources to process refunds faster
and your support is much appreciated.

Sincerely

13dailyPro Team

Hey, a petition to forums admins/moderators to get the program out of the scam section should not be too difficult once payouts or refunds (whatever you call them) get started and there is sufficient evidence to support that, otherwise more members (esp. new ones) are going to get hurt all over again.

So, despite the upbeat message, Autosurf Dummy is still waiting for the age-old refund...

Hello EPay Members! I just wanted to give a quick update before the
weekend. Things are moving along nicely.

The restructuring upgrades are being added. It really is taking a lot
longer than I thought it was going to. There are many steps in each
upgrade that needs to take place for the entire system to work, so please
be patient. I will be adding upgrades today, some over the weekend, and
will hopefully be finished by the middle of next week. Each upgrade
gets an email sent out as well, so please keep checking your accounts and
your emails.

There have been some people wanting to upgrade on their own, but were
afraid that it might upset the system. If you want to upgrade feel free
to do so. We have had many people upgrading on their own, using their
own funds, and things have been working fine.

As you will notice on the main page of the site, I have changed the
percentages, cycle times and referral percentages a bit. I am in hopes
that this will stimulate some added growth, as well as excitement for EPay
Surf. These percentages will not be around forever, so please use this
opportunity to it’s fullest.

EPay Surf is coming along nicely. Once payouts begin, I want all of the
members to please petition forum owners to take us out of the bad
section of their forum and put us in the good section. We took a hard hit,
and quite frankly I was wondering if we would ever be able to come back.
But here we are, and we are moving ahead nicely.

The forum will be up next week sometime. Right now, that is not the
most important thing on the priority list for me. There is a temporary
forum that you can access at http://www.magnumhosting.net/forum This forum
is primarily for Privy Opps, but there is a place to ask questions
about EPay Surf and to read the updates.

Speaking of updates. If you know someone that is not getting these
updates, then please tell them to go to the above forum, or to
http://www.autosurfauthority.com or go to the news page on the EPay
Surf site. I will try to have each update put in those places, so that
everyone can read them.

I think that is it for now as far as news. Now let me get to this
point. There have been many people over the past few months, who have
slammed me, the program and everything associated with the program. I have
apologized for my actions during this time, publicly and privately many
times. Many of you have come to me and asked if you could get back into
the program still, and many of you I have let back in. I am a firm
believer in getting things right with people, and accepting apologies. Some
of the things that were said about me were very hurtful and down right
nasty. Those people that threatened me, don’t even bother asking if
you can get back in.

EPay Surf was designed to help people. And it bugs me a bit that some
people that perhaps lost their mind for a second or let the pressures
get to them and said some things that they would not ordinarily say, are
out of the program now. I am willing to work with almost anyone if they
apologize. Not only apologize to me, but there are some that need to
apologize publicly as well.

I know that things got to you, and I know that I did not do my part in
taking care of the communications, but nonetheless, we are supposed to
be professionals, and the remarks made were distasteful and
inappropriate. I am man enough to apologize (which I did many times) and man
enough to let some of you back in, but you need to understand that the
things said were not right. So please contact me and lets work things out. I
want you to be helped by EPay Surf as well.

With that said, I need to get back to work. Please make sure that your
down line is getting these updates. I know that many of them turn into
small books, but nonetheless, they are important.

Take care everyone and have a great weekend.

Kent

An update from 24dailypro. Take note of the different categories lest they use it
as an excuse to dismiss your request.

To all members,

Members have asked for a little more clarification in regards to some
items. Please read carefully below. The complete admin email will be
posted shortly on the home page for all to read as well.

We have had to delete all tickets with the subject line "OUTSTANDING
CURRENT CASH" because there was a misunderstanding about what should be
sent. We apologize for that. "CURRENT CASH" has nothing to do with
pending cashouts. Those who truly have an amount of money listed in their
current cash that is not cashing out, please send in a ticket again
(the other ticket was deleted) but with a different subject line so we can
differentiate it. Please add the amount that is outstanding after the
subject line. For instance if you have $30.00 still sitting in your
current cash that is not cashing out, send us a ticket with the subject
line "OUTSTANDING CURRENT CASH $30.00" . If you submitted a ticked
without adding the amount listed in your current cash in the subject we
will have to close it. If you see that your ticket has been closed
without a reply you can resubmit it with the proper subject. This is to help
us organize the tickets and sort them so that we can get them done as
efficiently as possible. You can place it in the general category.

Read below for more clarification:

OUTSTANDING CURRENT CASH AMOUNT - If you have an amount
of money sitting in your "CURRENT CASH" that did not cash out you need
to tell us about that. That means an amount of money that did not cash out.
It may have been missed surfing commission that was added at one time
or even $15, $30 or $60 credited for overpayment of admin fees. If your
upgrades run out and you still see an amount of money sitting in "CURRENT
CASH" you need to tell us about it. Please type "OUTSTANDING CURRENT CASH
$xx.xx" (adding the amount that is sitting in your current cash in the
subject line as well) in the subject line of your support ticket. This
is NOT for outstanding pending cashouts….. only outstanding current
cash.

PENDING PAYOUTS – do not send in any tickets in regards to pending
payouts unless you have some that have EXPIRED on Jun 16 or before. If you
have unpaid upgrades that expired on Jun 16 or before please submit a
ticket with the subject line “STILL HAVE PENDING CASHOUTS FROM JUN16”
(or whatever date it is before that, not after!).

PAID BUT STILL PENDING – if you have been PAID but your payout is still
showing as pending, please let us know. Send in a ticket with the
subject line “PAID BUT STILL PENDING”.

DOUBLE PAYMENTS – if you have been paid more than once for an expired
upgrade you need to tell us about it. After this audit we will know
exactly who has been overpaid and we WILL take action against you if you
have not reported it to us. We are honest people and we will not
tolerate dishonesty. If you know you have been overpaid you need to send the
money back to 24dailypro Alertpay pay24dailypro@gmail.com and/or
E-bullion B99566 immediately. Send in a ticket with the transaction number
of the overpayment, the transaction number of repayment and the upgrade
that it corresponded to. We will need to track this and record it so
that we can reference it during the audit. If you have already paid it
back please send in a ticket with the details we need. Type “DOUBLE
PAYMENT” in the subject line.

Thank you all for your help. We will use this time to take care of all
issues and your cooperation and patience is very much appreciated.

24DailyPro Admin

Victory Surf admin seems to have disappeared and this program is set to join the scam section soon. For all the hype built up, it cannot last more than 8 weeks. Seems like the admin is getting more impatient and is lowering their targetted amount to scam. You can view the Whois data for victory surf below. The Registrant (Katz Global Domain Trust) is a well-known scammer and is associated with a lot of scam programs. Autosurf Dummy only listed a few cases below as there are really too many...

Domain: victorysurf.com
Status: Active

DNS:
ns1.gigahostmail.com
ns2.gigahostmail.com

Created: 2006-04-03
Expires: 2007-04-03
Last Modified: 2006-04-03 14:48:16

Registrant Contact:
Katz Global Domain Name Registration
Privacy Protected Domain Katz Global Domain Name Trust (domaintrust@katzglobal.com)
32 Maxwell Road #03-07
Singapore, SC, sg 069115
P: +65.67228356 F: +65.67258021

Administrative Contact:
Katz Global Domain Name Trust
Privacy Protected Domain Katz Global Domain Name Trust (domaintrust@katzglobal.com)
32 Maxwell Road #03-07
Singapore, SC, sg 069115
P: +65.67228356 F: +65.67258021

Technical Contact:
Katz Global Domain Name Trust
Privacy Protected Domain Katz Global Domain Name Trust (domaintrust@katzglobal.com)
32 Maxwell Road #03-07
Singapore, SC, sg 069115
P: +65.67228356 F: +65.67258021

Billing Contact:
Katz Global Domain Name Trust
Privacy Protected Domain Katz Global Domain Name Trust (domaintrust@katzglobal.com)
32 Maxwell Road #03-07
Singapore, SC, sg 069115
P: +65.67228356 F: +65.67258021


Domain Name: WEALTH2U.BIZ

Domain Status: ok

Registrant Name: Privacy Protected Domain
Katz Global Domain Name Trust
Registrant Organization: Katz GLobal Domain Name Trust
Registrant Address1: 32 Maxwell Road #03-07
Registrant City: Singapore
Registrant State/Province: SC
Registrant Postal Code: 069115
Registrant Country: Singapore
Registrant Country Code: SG
Registrant Phone Number: +65.67228356
Registrant Facsimile Number: +65.67258021
Registrant Email: domaintrust@katzglobal.com

Name Server: NS1.BLOCKDOS.NET
Name Server: NS2.BLOCKDOS.NET

Created by Registrar: WEB COMMERCE COMMUNICATIONS, LTD.

Domain Registration Date: Fri Oct 07 03:06:31 GMT 2005
Domain Expiration Date: Sat Oct 06 23:59:59 GMT 2007
Domain Last Updated Date: Sat Nov 12 01:09:18 GMT 2005


Domain Name: GlobalProfitsHyip

payouts: 155-175% after 3 days!
min deposit: $1
max deposit: $4,000
referral bonus: 3%

DNS:
ns1.ultradnszone.com
ns2.ultradnszone.com

Created: 2006-02-25
Expires: 2007-02-25
Last Modified: 2006-02-26 06:56:51

Registrant Contact:
Katz Global Domain Name Registration
Privacy Protected Domain Katz Global Domain Name Trust (domaintrust@katzglobal.com)
32 Maxwell Road #03-07
Singapore, SC, sg 069115
P: +65.67228356 F: +65.67258021


Domain Name: Strategy-6

payouts: 25-30% daily!
min deposit: $1
max deposit: $10,000
referral bonus: $10

IP Address 203.142.2.164
Country (hosted in) Singapore
DNS:
NS1.MALAYSIA-HOSTING1.COM
NS2.MALAYSIA-HOSTING1.COM

Created: 2006-01-03
Expires: 2007-01-02
Last Modified: 2006-01-03 09:02:11

Registrant Contact:
Katz Global Domain Name Trust
Privacy Protected Domain Katz Global Domain Name Trust (domaintrust@katzglobal.com)
32 Maxwell Road #03-07
Singapore, SC, sg 069115
P: +65.67228356 F: +65.67258021


Domain Name: SkyHyip
payouts: 1-2% daily!
min deposit: $10
max deposit: $5.000
referral bonus: 5%

IP Address 203.142.2.168
Country (hosted in) Singapore
Registrant ID: WN-R7903717054
Registrant Name: Privacy Protected Domain Katz Global Domain Name Trust
Registrant Organization: Katz Global Domain Name Trust
Registrant Address1: 32 Maxwell Road #03-07
Registrant City: Singapore
Registrant State/Province: SC
Registrant Postal Code: 069115
Registrant Country: Singapore
Registrant Country Code: SG
Registrant Phone Number: +65.67228356
Registrant Facsimile Number: +65.67258021
Registrant Email: domaintrust@katzglobal.com
Name Server: NS2.MALAYSIA-HOSTING1.COM
Name Server: NS1.MALAYSIA-HOSTING1.COM
Created by Registrar: WEB COMMERCE COMMUNICATIONS, LTD.
Last Updated by Registrar: WEB COMMERCE COMMUNICATIONS, LTD.
Domain Registration Date: Sat Feb 18 08:15:02 GMT 2006
Domain Expiration Date: Sat Feb 17 23:59:59 GMT 2007
Domain Last Updated Date: Sat Feb 18 19:34:44 GMT 2006

Autosurf Dummy got this update from them urging members to move forward. Come on, the scam is too apparent and they are just moving from program to program milking each one and leaving members high and dry. No prizes for guessing how long Newglobaltraffic.com will last...

Dear Members,

It has recently been brought to our attention that many NME members
want to move forward with newglobaltraffic.com and the other affiliated
NME opportunities. It is true that we have begun payouts for NGT and many
of our members are earning a significant income from this program.

If you wish to move forward but your NME sponsor does not, then please
have your sponsor send you an email giving you permission to change
sponsors in order for you to register for NGT. Once your inactive sponsor
sends you this confirmation email, please forward that to us by
submitting a ticket on nmeglobal.com. If you can not get in touch with your
inactive sponsor within 72 hours, please submit a ticket on nmeglobal.com
and we will assist you in this matter.

Again, our members are experiencing rapid success with the revamped NME
business plan and it is our strong desire to see ALL NME members
succeed.

Together in Success,

NME

Dear Members,

We are still getting a large number of emails regarding the refunds.
This is rather disappointing as we are working a lot of extra hours
already and all information has been made available both in emails and in
the members area.

We have already paid out almost $26,000 in refunds and will continue to
pay as much as possible when funds are available as explained.

Answers to the most frequently asked questions below;

1. The ID’s on the 2 fullstats lists are the Payment Batch ID, not your
member ID.
2. Yes, your accounts are still active and you can surf, upgrade, buy
advertising and buy tickets for the sweepstake.
3. All accounts where zeroed on July 1st prior to the relaunch and a
full back up of all accounts from before that date has been done and is
on a different database for preparation of refunds!
4. If your account is deleted because of inactivity, you will still
receive a refund, again there are 2 databases. The current inactivity
period is set to 21 days of no surf or upgrades.
5. If your Name is not on the list yet, please do not worry, we are
still working on the list to ensure that non profit amounts go on list #1
and the balance goes to list#2.


We want to take this opportunity to thank all the members who joined
12by12 in the 13dP down line. This is helping us to boost the refunds
process!

Sincerely

13dailyPro Team

Hello EPay Members.

I truly hope that you all had a great weekend. I wanted to get an
update out today, because the next few days are shaping up to be pretty
busy.

Starting tomorrow afternoon, I am going to begin adding the upgrades
for the people that are due them. I will send an email out to each person
that I upgrade tomorrow. Remember, these upgrades will act just like
you purchased them, so you will need to surf as usual.

I will post on the news section and the front page of the site the new
percentages that I am going to be implementing, and the time frame as
well. I have been crunching numbers, and want the best for the members,
without jeopardizing the program.

Speaking of news page. The updates that are sent out will be posted to
the news page as well. So if your downline is not getting the updates,
then have them look at the news page on the EPay Site.

The ticket site is back up as well. So if you have any account issues,
questions or whatever, please submit a ticket, and we will answer you
as quickly as possible. Emails are fine as well, but the ticket system
is better because we can keep track of things better that way. The link
to the ticket system can be accessed from the site or here:
https://epaysurf.com/helpdesk/

The forum will be down for most of the week. I am going to try to get
the new one up by the weekend. Privy Opps members can go to
http://www.magnumhosting.net/forum for all Privy Opps updates.

One thing that I would like to say about EPay surf coming back. I am
still getting "nice" emails from people calling me a scammer and many
other "nice" things. All that I ask from you, is to give us a chance. I am
not a scammer, no matter what your little imagination thinks. And in a
matter of just a few days, I will prove it.

EPay Surf is looking very good right now, and I am excited to get it on
its way once again. Starting tomorrow, we will be excepting new
members, as well as adding upgrades, so stay close and have fun.

One last thing. While you are surfing, please report any sites that are
not working, offensive, or otherwise. We have almost 4,000 sites, and
it is very hard for me to keep track of programs that are still online
and still working.

If you have any special services that you can offer to EPay Surf I am
interested as well. I need trustworthy people, that can help us grow.

I think that is it for now. What do you say we make EPay Surf hit the
roof this week. I am so excited to see her fly again. I will talk to you
soon. Remember to submit a ticket if you have any questions, problems,
or thoughts.

Talk to you all soon!

Kent

UPGRADES PAID TO 24DP - Please ensure at all times when you make a
purchase that you check the information carefully before you click
"submit".  Once you make the payment it is out of our hands if you
make it to the wrong account.  All payments to 24DP E-bullion should
be going to account number B99566 and no other.  Alertpay should be
paid to pay24dailypro@gmail.com only.

The account was originally stated as B54994 in error.

Thanks!
24DailyPro CEO and Staff

Update from 24 dailypro...

Hello to all members of 24dailypro,

We have some very important announcements to make so please read this
whole message. But first we need your help with some house keeping!

Please read below and take care of these as soon as possible if they
apply to you. We would appreciate it if you would send this message to
your downline in case they do not get this message. This is very
important!

SCROLLING ADMIN MESSAGES - If you have a scrolling message on
your site, please pay attention to it. If the issue has been resolved but the
message is still scrolling please submit a ticket and let us know so we can
take it off. Please type "PLEASE REMOVE SCROLLING MESSAGE" in
the subject line of your support ticket.

NEGATIVE PENDING PAYOUT AMOUNTS - If you have a negative
pending payout amount in your history, please report that to us so we can
make an adjustment and fix your account. Please type "NEGATIVE
PENDING PAYOUT" in the subject line of your support ticket.

OUTSTANDING CURRENT CASH AMOUNT - If you have an amount
still sitting in your pending cash that is not cashing out, please let us know
so that we can make an adjustment and fix your account. Please type
"OUTSTANDING CURRENT CASH" in the subject line of your support ticket.

TICKETS IN WRONG CATEGORIES - Please be sure when submitting
tickets that you choose the correct category. If you are not sure please place
it in the general category. If you place it in the wrong category your
reply may be delayed. It is always a good idea to include the MAIN
ISSUE in the subject line. You must not include several different issues
in the same ticket. Please submit a new ticket for each issue you may
have and be sure to place them in the proper category.

HISTORY SHOWING "NONE" - please please please.... we just can't stress
this often enough. If you see the word "None" or anything other than
your payment address for Alertpay or account for E-bullion you need to
update your site and make the change. Instructions for this are
included in the FAQ. Please follow them carefully.

NO CREDITS ALLOCATED - many of you still have no credits allocated to
your websites. If you do not allocate credits your account will become
suspended. PLEASE allocate credits if you see 0 credits where your
websites are listed. Note that CPH is not where you allocate credits.
You must click on "Account Credits" to do that.

UPGRADES PAID TO 24DP - Please ensure at all times when you make a
purchase that you check the information carefully before you click
"submit". Once you make the payment it is out of our hands if you make it to
the wrong account. All payments to 24DP E-bullion should be going to
account number B54994 and no other. Alertpay should be paid to
pay24dailypro@gmail.com only.

PASSWORDS FOR YOUR PAYMENT ACCOUNTS - It has come to our
attention that many members have been using the same password for their
payment accounts that they use for their email or for other programs. PLEASE
use a unique password that you use ONLY for your payment accounts. Do not
make the password easy to guess. If you think you may forget the password
then make a note of it somewhere where no one else will find it but
only you know where it is. This is very important. Please go and change
your passwords ASAP if the same password for 24dailypro or your payment
account is being used anywhere else. This is for your own safety.

E-BULLION SECURITY - We highly recommend that you secure your
E-bullion account with a Cryptocard. The cost is around $100 and we do not
get paid for recommending it. We simply want you to be as secure as
possible from hackers. You can get details from your E-bullion account.

ACCOUNT AUDITS - We have been auditing all member accounts for a few
weeks now. Incredibly we have been finding cheaters and hackers by the
hundreds. With the result of this internal audit performed by our staff,
it has been recommended by our legal counsel, that we seek external
auditors to review our findings. This action will assist us in our efforts
to bring these criminals to justice. Until this external audit is
complete or the auditors say it is ok, we will not be able to do any payouts
any longer. I know this will not come as good news to you considering
your payouts have been delayed already. But would you rather we secure
your money or give it out to hackers and cheaters? We sincerely
apologize to you for this but it is out of our hands at this point and we
need to stop them now! Some of you cheaters and hackers are getting this
message.... believe me we know who you are and we will get you.

We have not run with your money. We are doing everything we can to
protect your money and the 24dailypro program. We have the capabilities
but we need more time. Please consider your pending payouts as just
that, pending. We understand that you want to get paid and these delays
may be causing some great hardships to some of you. However, we have
always advocated that we are NOT an investment site and no one should
have been treating it as such. If you purchased ad packs with your rent
money or your tuition money then you accepted a risk that we did not
encourage nor will we in the future.

ADMIN CHANGES - we have made a couple of changes in our admin staff.
Please don't be too hard on the new staff as they will be working hard
along with you to straighten out your accounts and to make the
adjustments necessary to get back on track. We appreciate it when you
treat the admins with respect and dignity and they will treat you with
the same no matter what problems you may have. We apologize to all of
you who sent in tickets and have been waiting longer than you should
have for a reply. This will improve in the coming week.

NO MORE UPGRADES UNTIL FURTHER NOTICE - We will not be
accepting further upgrades until the audit is completed. You will still have
access to your website and account where you can make any changes you
need according to the info provided for you above. We will also take this time
to clean up in any way we can so we'll be ready to go again when the audit
is done. We will not be sending updates daily. You can continue to surf daily.

The ticket area will still be open but PLEASE take it easy in there....
we do not need repeated questions about when the audit will be
completed. If need be we may have to delete tickets asking about payouts or
audits so please do not send them unless you have an issue with your
account as indicated above.

PRIVATE DAILY SURF - What is affecting 24dailypro right now is not
affecting Private Daily Surf (PDS). We are catching up on the payouts
there and a payout is scheduled for tonight. Please continue to upgrade
and surf in PDS

24dailypro CEO and Admin Staff

Hello Everyone. I know it has been a long time. Perhaps things below will explain a little bit.

As mentioned before, I did hunker down and did not let out alot of updates or correspondence during the down times. I told someone this story and I think it will help to understand where I am coming from.

When things began getting bad, I had many people turn on me. People that I trusted were posting things that I said in private to them, they were posting lies, they were posting many things. I began to have threats against me, my family my friends. Not just lax threats, but very serious threats. I was get hate emails, people were just getting plain vile. And it all began to hit at once.

Now this is the story that I told. I told them it is alot like a soldier in a fire fight. Bombs are bursting everywhere, flack is flying, bullets are whizzing by, bad things are happening everywhere. Some soldiers keep their heads up and keep fighting, generally they are killed if the firefight is to bad. Others hunker into the foxhole and wait it out. They have no communication with the outside, it is just a matter of survival. Many of you that have thrown accusations at me, have never been faced with the things that I was faced with.

Many of you have never had your family threatened or even your own life threatened. So please do not be to hard on me for not communicating. I hunkered down in the foxhole, and began to take stock of the situation. I asked myself if it was all worth it. I asked myself many times if I should even try to get things back up and moving. Then one day I got an email from someone, someone that rather than balsting me, encouraged me to keep going. They wanted to see EPay survive. So from then on, I decided it was worth coming out and trying to get things done.

Many times I have posted in forums, only to have my words twisted and turned to where I finally decided not to even post any longer. There are alot of vicious people out there, and until you have to stand and take the crap that they dished out, please dont judge me to harshly.

Anyway, here is the most recent update. Thanks to those of you that have stuck with me on this incredible journey.

---------------------------------------------------------------
Hello EPay Members.

I wanted to get this out before the weekend, because I know that many of you will be gone this weekend, and are anxiously waiting to see what happens.

The first thing is this. I have gone through the entire membership list. Some people have been removed, others accounts have been "adjusted", and others have been checked. If you cannot login to your account, then send an email to me at accounts@epaysurf.com with your details, and I will check on things for you.

The next thing is this. There have been alot of people not getting these email updates. Please, make sure that you post the updates all over the place, send them to your downlines, just make sure everyone has been getting them. Also, check your spam folders, put our email address in your address book. Just make sure your not missing anything. These updates are important.

This is the way things are going to work, starting the first part of next week. I am going to begin adding upgrade packages to each persons account that is due a refund. These upgrades will act just like an upgrade package that you purchased yourself. You will need to surf, and go through the motions just like you did prior to the troubles that we had.

The percentages will be changed as well as the length of the upgrade cycles. The final percentages and cycle time will be given to you later, and will be posted on the site as well. I am still working the numbers. I feel that it is important to shorten the cycle time, so that payouts can begin as soon as possible, just to prove to everyone that I am not a scammer, and EPay Surf deserves to be out of the scam/closed section in the forums.

Many of you have given me some great ideas and suggestions as to what you want to see changed, added and so on. I will be adding some new things as we progress, and even deleting some new things. The main thing that I want you to understand, is that I am going to try to take everything slow and easy.

The upgrades which will be added, will be done in order. I will try to send out emails each day to the ones that get their accounts upgraded on that day. I cannot do them all at the same time, because it is all is done by hand, and takes alot of time to accomplish. So please be patient. Everything should be done by Friday of next week.

The forum will be changing as well. I am going to make things a little different in the forum, maybe try to re-design it or something. If any of you know how to work with forums, and re-design them, I would be more than happy to have you help out.

Just a quick side note. I am very sorry to those of you that were involved with Jeremy's program. I was truly hoping that it would work out for all of you. It is strange how things happen. I wish Jeremy the best. He has been a great part of EPay Surf, and I hope that you dont treat him as poorly as I was treated.

I do know that with the troubles with EPay Surf and Privy Opps, that it looked like a viable opportunity. I hope that once EPay Surf is up and running that I can prove to you that truly it is possible to make money online, and in a safe atmosphere. I know that many of you have been hurt financially and emotinally, but please just stick with it a little longer. We are almost there.

There have been many accusations flying around about Diana. I want to set the record straight. She has been a tremendous help to me and to EPay Surf. She never controlled any funds, she was always support, design and behind the scenes. Some of you that have nothing better to do, have somehow taken it upon yourself to attack her. She is not to blame in any of this. She has been a great help and support to me, and I appreciate her very much. So for those of you that have attacked her, I am coming after you. You need to shut your mouths and go hide under the rock you came up out of. We do not need your kind.

Just for the record. EPay Surf is here to stay. Many of you have tried to destroy it with your emails, threats, lawsuits, forum posts etc. But when it is all said and done, we will be standing, and you will be hiding under your rock. I dont appreciate the way some of you turned on me and this program. You have been marked, and you will get your just reward. Now, leave us alone, and let us do what we set out to do in the first place. I am not a scammer, never will be a scammer! I want to help people, and EPay Surf is staged to do just that. If you dont want to be a part of it, then send an email to admin@epaysurf.com and asked to be removed. I will gladly flush your account.

To the supporters. I hope that you will have the courage to stand with us, and tell the naysayers, and negative people to go elsewhere. It is time for us to prove that EPay Surf can and will survive!

I did not mean to get so emotional about things, but it is necessary some times. EPay Surf is slated to be great, and I want to help as many people along the way as I can. We will have more bumps, we will have issues and difficulties, but I always want you to remember, that I will not run, I will always be here working for all of the EPay Surf members.

Privy Opps members, I will have someone post an update for you as well in the forum. If you want the new password, you will have to request it.

Have a great weekend everyone. Monday is the start of some great things.

Take care.

Kent

Autosurf Dummy can only say this, when something like this happen, all the harsh reactions of members (abuses and threats) are to be expected. Thousands of members' hard-earned money have been lost, so you can't except them to just walk away shaking their head and forget about the losses.

However, if Kent is really serious about getting the program back on track, i think it is worth giving him more time, as members have already been waiting for close to two months, so it makes no difference to wait another a week or two to see if Epay Surf can make it or not...